Comments on: Are women more judgemental of other women? http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/ Business Women of Opinion! Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:12:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Editor http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-748 Editor Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:56:19 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-748 Thank you Morag, we aim to make you think :) Thank you Morag, we aim to make you think :)

]]> By: Editor http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6878 Editor Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:56:00 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-6878 Thank you Morag, we aim to make you think :) Thank you Morag, we aim to make you think :)

]]> By: Morag http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-747 Morag Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:19:28 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-747 One of the things I like most about Birds on the Blog is the very high quality interaction you get from the commenters, once an article has got you thinking. :) One of the things I like most about Birds on the Blog is the very high quality interaction you get from the commenters, once an article has got you thinking. :)

]]> By: Morag http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6877 Morag Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:19:00 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-6877 One of the things I like most about Birds on the Blog is the very high quality interaction you get from the commenters, once an article has got you thinking. :) One of the things I like most about Birds on the Blog is the very high quality interaction you get from the commenters, once an article has got you thinking. :)

]]> By: Katherine Davison http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-746 Katherine Davison Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:55:00 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-746 If you talked to male trainers they would say the same as I have written, probably not to you but to another colleague. One male trainer who I talked with last week about writing this said exactly the same sentiment, men tend not to be emotional on evaluations, it is almost always a woman who complains and it is usually (not always) because they didn't like the trainer as a person. Nothing to do with their training skill. I also work with extremely good trainers, so can't say about the trainers out there who train from books, can't answer questions outside of the course material, or those who train from a script. If you talked to male trainers they would say the same as I have written, probably not to you but to another colleague. One male trainer who I talked with last week about writing this said exactly the same sentiment, men tend not to be emotional on evaluations, it is almost always a woman who complains and it is usually (not always) because they didn’t like the trainer as a person. Nothing to do with their training skill.

I also work with extremely good trainers, so can’t say about the trainers out there who train from books, can’t answer questions outside of the course material, or those who train from a script.

]]> By: Katherine Davison http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6876 Katherine Davison Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:55:00 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-6876 If you talked to male trainers they would say the same as I have written, probably not to you but to another colleague. One male trainer who I talked with last week about writing this said exactly the same sentiment, men tend not to be emotional on evaluations, it is almost always a woman who complains and it is usually (not always) because they didn't like the trainer as a person. Nothing to do with their training skill. I also work with extremely good trainers, so can't say about the trainers out there who train from books, can't answer questions outside of the course material, or those who train from a script. If you talked to male trainers they would say the same as I have written, probably not to you but to another colleague. One male trainer who I talked with last week about writing this said exactly the same sentiment, men tend not to be emotional on evaluations, it is almost always a woman who complains and it is usually (not always) because they didn’t like the trainer as a person. Nothing to do with their training skill.

I also work with extremely good trainers, so can’t say about the trainers out there who train from books, can’t answer questions outside of the course material, or those who train from a script.

]]> By: Katherine Davison http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-745 Katherine Davison Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:50:34 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-745 I think it is great that you can specify and identify what exactly you found "bad" about the trainer. I have known male trainers whose style was patronising ass. One changed his style when he got remarried (to another trainer). that style can work in certain environments, and work for some people but not all. I don't think you were being emotional by stating this on your eval, you would be emotional by saying the entire course was rubbish because of it. Not everyone can like the trainer as a person, but what I would like is for everyone to use the evaluation to look at the course topics and how they were trained. If the trainer acted or did something that distracted from training then please note that separately on the eval. Hope that makes sense I think it is great that you can specify and identify what exactly you found “bad” about the trainer.

I have known male trainers whose style was patronising ass. One changed his style when he got remarried (to another trainer). that style can work in certain environments, and work for some people but not all.

I don’t think you were being emotional by stating this on your eval, you would be emotional by saying the entire course was rubbish because of it. Not everyone can like the trainer as a person, but what I would like is for everyone to use the evaluation to look at the course topics and how they were trained. If the trainer acted or did something that distracted from training then please note that separately on the eval.

Hope that makes sense

]]> By: Katherine Davison http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6875 Katherine Davison Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:50:00 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-6875 I think it is great that you can specify and identify what exactly you found "bad" about the trainer. I have known male trainers whose style was patronising ass. One changed his style when he got remarried (to another trainer). that style can work in certain environments, and work for some people but not all. I don't think you were being emotional by stating this on your eval, you would be emotional by saying the entire course was rubbish because of it. Not everyone can like the trainer as a person, but what I would like is for everyone to use the evaluation to look at the course topics and how they were trained. If the trainer acted or did something that distracted from training then please note that separately on the eval. Hope that makes sense I think it is great that you can specify and identify what exactly you found “bad” about the trainer.

I have known male trainers whose style was patronising ass. One changed his style when he got remarried (to another trainer). that style can work in certain environments, and work for some people but not all.

I don’t think you were being emotional by stating this on your eval, you would be emotional by saying the entire course was rubbish because of it. Not everyone can like the trainer as a person, but what I would like is for everyone to use the evaluation to look at the course topics and how they were trained. If the trainer acted or did something that distracted from training then please note that separately on the eval.

Hope that makes sense

]]> By: Katherine Davison http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-744 Katherine Davison Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:43:43 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-744 Thanks Anne. I think there are a lot of issues generally about women in the work place. I think I am lucky that I have the respect of colleagues based on knowledge and experience. I too have seen men be derogative towards a female boss but in most cases (not all) the women didn't have the knowledge that the men though they should have, say an Arts degree with maybe word processing experience and is in charge of programmers but does not understand programming or programmers as people. In Canada there is a problem with quota's. I know a military communications engineer who retired from reg force and got a job with a civilian firm because she met the female quota. The men were shocked that she could actually do her job. It might be good to look at whether the men have cause to complain. I guess I am lucky that I get one or two complaints at most a year, but I do work hard in making training about the learner. Hope that is what does it. Thanks Anne. I think there are a lot of issues generally about women in the work place. I think I am lucky that I have the respect of colleagues based on knowledge and experience.

I too have seen men be derogative towards a female boss but in most cases (not all) the women didn’t have the knowledge that the men though they should have, say an Arts degree with maybe word processing experience and is in charge of programmers but does not understand programming or programmers as people.

In Canada there is a problem with quota’s. I know a military communications engineer who retired from reg force and got a job with a civilian firm because she met the female quota. The men were shocked that she could actually do her job. It might be good to look at whether the men have cause to complain.

I guess I am lucky that I get one or two complaints at most a year, but I do work hard in making training about the learner. Hope that is what does it.

]]> By: Katherine Davison http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/are-women-more-judgemental-of-other-women/comment-page-1/#comment-6874 Katherine Davison Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:43:00 +0000 http://www.birdsontheblog.co.uk/?p=644#comment-6874 Thanks Anne. I think there are a lot of issues generally about women in the work place. I think I am lucky that I have the respect of colleagues based on knowledge and experience. I too have seen men be derogative towards a female boss but in most cases (not all) the women didn't have the knowledge that the men though they should have, say an Arts degree with maybe word processing experience and is in charge of programmers but does not understand programming or programmers as people. In Canada there is a problem with quota's. I know a military communications engineer who retired from reg force and got a job with a civilian firm because she met the female quota. The men were shocked that she could actually do her job. It might be good to look at whether the men have cause to complain. I guess I am lucky that I get one or two complaints at most a year, but I do work hard in making training about the learner. Hope that is what does it. Thanks Anne. I think there are a lot of issues generally about women in the work place. I think I am lucky that I have the respect of colleagues based on knowledge and experience.

I too have seen men be derogative towards a female boss but in most cases (not all) the women didn’t have the knowledge that the men though they should have, say an Arts degree with maybe word processing experience and is in charge of programmers but does not understand programming or programmers as people.

In Canada there is a problem with quota’s. I know a military communications engineer who retired from reg force and got a job with a civilian firm because she met the female quota. The men were shocked that she could actually do her job. It might be good to look at whether the men have cause to complain.

I guess I am lucky that I get one or two complaints at most a year, but I do work hard in making training about the learner. Hope that is what does it.

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