Writing funny – deliberately, or by accident.

The dangers of women trying to be funny have already been discussed here, but in spite of all the warnings, some of us keep on trying.

I went to the same school as Victoria Wood, and was exposed to her humour long before the rest of you. I was in the first year when she was in the sixth form, and all I recall is something about six and half dwarves, but perhaps it counts as an early influence. I would love to write something as wonderful as dinnerladies, though – one of my favourite comedies ever.

There are also some wonderfully funny crime writers. Janet Evanovich is one of my favourites.

This week, I submitted my attempt at a comic poem to my poetry clinic group – and waited in abject fear at the resounding silence that followed. Was it not funny enough? Was it not poetic enough? In the end the consensus was that it does need a little more work, but it did make them laugh.  Don’t worry, I have no intention of inflicting it on you here.

I do have a poor record when it comes to writing funny. I tried it in one story for my Open University Creative Writing course – and my tutor’s comment was, “Sense of humour is such an individual thing.”

Ouch.

A previous story, which I thought was a moving and emotional piece, tinged with a dollop of  gritty realism, was described as Ealing Comedy, but from Oop North.

And a story in which the narrator was based most closely on myself – well, that one was criticised because no reader would want to empathise with such an unsympathetic character.

So, if writing funny is so difficult, why would anyone ever try to write about sex?

Perhaps I’ll consider that question next time. After all, I read on one writer’s blogs that there are four obligatory topics that everyone who writes about writing has to tackle, and sex was one of them. Oddly enough I can’t remember the others.

What kind of humour do you enjoy? Who is your favourite writer of comic fiction, or which is your favourite sitcom?

Ann

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  • LindaMattacks
    Curling up with a Maeve Binchy or Cathy Kelly novel is a rare treat. To me they get into their characters and make you care about what happens to them – laugh and cry along with them “One HUNDRED repetitions???” (about an exercise on a Callanetics video) stays with me years on and still produces a grin.

    Those who inject a sense of the ridiculous into what the rest of us accept as ‘normal’ get my vote. Bob Newhart was brilliant - this clip is just over 5 minutes – worth it if you haven’t come across it before - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVaeKVSddHA&... - Dave Allen and Billy Connolly are two more of several that tickle me along similar lines.

    I used to enjoy Cheers though, as with the Newhart clip, I found the canned laughter of the ‘live’ studio audience got up my nose a bit.

    I can’t ‘do’ funny. When I am amusing it’s always by accident, so I admire those who appear to be able turn it on at will and almost always hit the mark!
  • Editor
    Cheers I loved, but what I find funny is Frasier. I have had so many cringeworthy moments watching that!
  • Thanks for the Newhart clip, Linda. Not seen that before, very good. I love Dave Allen and Billy Connolly too.

    I do think you have pinpointed what can be a weakness of comic novels though - if it is played too much for laughs it can get in the way of really empathising and caring about the characters.

    I just read a novel by Carl Hiassen with my mystery discussion group - and he writes very funny crime novels usually based in Florida and with a strong environmental theme. They are funny, but somehow I never really care for them that much.

    I think that's what works about dinnerladies for me. The humour is sometimes gentle and sometimes sharp, but there's also real human beings to empathise with, with real feelings, and that's what makes it so special.
  • Carolyn
    I spent a few dire years trying to be a stand-up comic some while ago. I wasn't terribly good, the most I could hope for was a roomful of people smiling inwardly and an occasional titter. It occurred to me, reading Terry Pratchett on the bus one day, that smiling inwardly and occasional titters might be crap for a stand-up but could be relative success for a writer. So, I started writing. I write as I speak and some people are kind enough to say it's funny. I don't know what the secret is though.
    Mind you, it is always possible that your OU tutor was a humourless drone. If you find life generally funny anyway (which it seems to me that you do) then the humour infuses everything you say anyway. People who don't get it are clearly only half alive.
  • That's a very good point, Carolyn - there are different kinds of humour. Pratchett is a good example, he can raise plenty of smiles and the occasional actual laugh out loud...even in his recent lecture on assisted dying.

    That's the thing though, isn't it. I think it helps to be funny even about the most serious subjects. When I was in therapy I was told off for it - but sometimes it's only by laughing at things that we can cope with them.

    I do absolutely admire that ability to stand up and speak in front of people though. Even if you didn't work out as a stand up comedian, I so envy you that courage. In my novel I made my poor main character have to give a speech, and then when I looked back I realised I'd even fluffed writing about it!

    :)
  • Morag
    I too am a massive Janet Evanovich fan, even though all her books are very samey. I obviously share her sense of humour!

    Got to admit, my own most successful writing is about sex. But I can't show those stories to most people. They'd die of shock ;)
  • I'm going to tread on that very ground in a later blog, Morag. I'm blushing just thinking about it - won't even show my husband :)

    I do see your point about her being samey, but I still chuckle when I remember the scene in one of the early ones when Stephanie Plum's grandma shoots the roast chicken...

    (and no, that is not a double entrendre)

    Not to mention all the stuff about the New Jersey funerals...
  • Morag
    And Grandma Mazur ROCKS.
  • Morag
    I have to say, Ann, I have shown some of my stories to my real life friends (as opposed to my blogging friends on a pretty dodgy site ;) ) and some of them didn't even understand the stuff I was writing about!
  • suhad
    i am not so good in names, but you are one of my most fave bloggers. i love your humor, so wicked.... keep making us laugh please, i need it. :)
  • Thanks Suhad :)
  • Editor
    Some of my most serious, heartfelt pieces have been termed as funny, and amusing, and one even made people cry with laughter. However, that wasn't my intent at the time of writing!

    I have given up trying to write 'seriously' on my blogs and just write like me, and if people keep laughing I guess I am doing something right, albeit unintentionally!
  • I think that's the important thing in writing, to just use your own voice.

    Humour can make a topic more palatable anyway, and doesn't mean that you aren't being taken seriously at the same time
  • Of all the books I have written - and there's about 20 of them out there now - the one that has sold best is "The Horse Lover's Joke Book."

    When I think of the months of hard work that go into the business or consumer books ... the joke book taking just a few highly enjoyable weeks to put together ... the respectable but hardly eye-watering sales of the "serious" books ... the many, many thousands of copies sold and 5 reprints of the joke book .... well, there's a moral in there somewhere.

    It seems "writing funny" is the way to go...!
  • Could be Suzan, but it's painful when you aim for it and miss...

    But 5 reprints - that's brilliant. I have a friend who loves horses, I'll have to remember that one when her birthday comes round
  • Give me a shout and I'll send you a signed copy!
  • I'll definitely take you up on that :)
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